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Logically, does The Easter Answer succeed in presenting a consistent (without contradiction) view of the events between the resurrection of Jesus and his ascension?
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You have in your account Mary Magdalene going to the tomb between 4 and 5:15 a.m. and coming back to report to Peter that, "We don't know where they have laid him," (see John 20:2).
You then have other women leaving for the tomb later that morning at 6:15. But Mark 16:1-2 contradicts your harmonization because it specifically lists Mary Magdalene as among the women who left to anoint and preserve Christ's body. Luke 24:9-12 also confirms that Mary Magdalene was among these women who left later that morning.
So, why would Mary Magdalene leave to anoint and preserve a body she doesn't think is there (see John 20:2)?
[Michael, If you had actually read the book you would know I proposed several possible answers to your question. Methinks you're making your judgments based only on the pdf chart from the book which I've provided on this website. This chart only provides a rough sketch of the reconstruction in The Easter Answer. You should read the book. If you've exhausted your book budget for the month (if so I can commiserate) send me an e-mail and I'll gratis you a copy. Thank you for your comments and interest in studying the resurrection. Peace, Stephen]
Luke 24:9-12 explicitly says that Mary Magdalene was one of the women (she's actually listed first) who came back from the initial trip to tell the disciples that Jesus was alive.
This contradicts John 20:1-6, which actually proves that Mary was with other women (and not alone) on her first trip, indicated by the we in, "We do not know where they have laid him."
In one account Mary comes back from her initial trip and tells the disciples (including Peter) that he is alive. In the other she comes back and says that she doesn't know where he is.
Because Luke and John have Mary with the other women on the initial trip it seems strained to me to bring a time discrepancy in: at early dawn it is still very dark.
[Aaron. Did you read The Easter Answer? I don't see any specifics to indicate you did. Many atheists are respectful and try to follow instructions like those above. Maybe you missed them. If you have any thoughtful criticism you're welcome to make it here. Stephen]
I would only set the Emmaus walk later based on Luke 24:29:
"But they urged Him, saying, "Stay with us, for it is getting toward evening, and the day is now nearly over." So He went in to stay with them." How long would it take to walk 7 miles and then almost straight back again?
A fine piece of work and don't feel discouraged by atheist agression. When I read of Dan Barker's response I immediately thought of the Professor in the cage in the Interpreter's House in John Bunyan's "Pilgrim's Progress" and of Hebrews 10 v 26-31. For men such as Dan Barker there may be no hope.
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[Richard, The idea here is that you read The Easter Answer and answer the question above. Had you read the book, you would know that it does not so much as mention the Gnostic Gospels. Stephen]
[May 27, 09 Richard, You added another post today, which I have deleted because it contained a link to your website. This is not an open forum. You have voted and expressed your opinion, twice; once under the name Richard Grimes and again as Credulous Gentile. Thank you for having participated.
For the benefit of other readers and to give you the satisfaction of having clarified your previous point, in the post which was deleted today Richard wrote:
"What do you mean that you do not mention the gnostic gospels? You make reference to Mark, you quote John though he is not gnostic. On pg. 50 and 51 you assemble all gnostics as Jehovah assembled all his sons in Job 1:6 that included Jesus' brother, Satan. You bring gnostic Luke into the fray to counter John's allegations Re. Holy Spirit, the 3rd person in the Holy Trinity that transmogrifies into One -- One God, thus making all three equally liable for the evil done in this world which is impossible to exaggerate. Stephen: Look up the word gnostic. RG"]
I for one question the voting format here: "Yes" voters are not required to offer any analysis to substantiate their votes, unlike the dissenters.
Pastor Kingsley has made a decent effort at reconciling the very obvious problems with the gospel accounts, but only Doug (1/30) has offered anything analytical to counter the cheerleading trend of all the other "yes" voters.
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[Bryan. If readers agree, there is no need for any additional analysis, but no restriction either. By not requiring anything but a YES from those that agree, it was with a view to keeping those comments brief and to the point.
This is the same idea I had in mind for this page in keeping the question constrained to the contradiction-consistency issue. Barker also asked for plausibility, which is certainly more subjective in nature. As this develops it is likely that there will be other places on the Internet where its plausibility and many other related issues will be discussed. I might look into adding a forum to this site, or at the very least I'll post links to other forums where this is being discussed.
Concerning dissenting opinions, last week I received an 89 page rebuttal from Dan Barker. It is titled "The 'Easter Answer' Answered." He has not posted a link to it yet on his site or made a public announcement that he has answered. So far, I've only skimmed it. I'm glad for the respite this delay affords me to be prepared for the storm of controversy which may well ensue.
For now however, I appreciate your Abstain vote and understand your objections. For the record, there have not been any NO votes offered by readers--to date anyway. Thank you. Stephen]
Overall, outstanding work!
But in any case, I am not of the opinion that the gospels need to attain to a standard of "history" that is unique to the twenty-first century. They were written in and for a different culture and a different time. Each of the authors did their homework, but their sources were all human. The message of the Easter Puzzle (not Problem) is that God can and does use human beings with all their failings and forgetfulness.